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quote . . . bravo senator. karl rove said that he could imagine a 2016 gop candidate in favor of gay marriage. wow. but will the supreme court's decision bring ground breaking change. joining me to discuss this is our political friend christine pelosi, chair of the california democratic party women's caucus, and she shares the party platform when they adopted marriage equality. what is at steak? >> most immediately at steak are the 18,000 same-sex couples which got married. so what the court could do is rule narrowly on behalf of those california couples and say look, you got married because the supreme court recognized the constitutional right to marry in california, we find those marriages to be valid, we are throwing out prop 8. so the most narrow victory would be a victory for the 18,000 same-sex couples. more broodly of course the court could recognize the constitutional right to marry in the 14th amendment, and it's prohibition against denying liberty rights and demanding equal protection. >> michael: is the narrow victory a victory? just the 18,000 cases? >
backed by karl rove and former executives from sun micro systems is designed to give republican systems a leg up where many struggled last cycle. >> i want to be careful when i say this. karl rove ran through how much money last year? >> a lot. >> how much? >> tens of millions. >> no. over hundreds of millions. >> goodness gracious. >> i'm not saying karl should be set on the sidelines. but, man, he saw nothing coming. nothing. in fact, he was still sound like the boy in the plastic bubble like late into the evening on election night. still not knowing about -- >> with all of that money, had the worst record than the new york mets. >> he had a terrible record. again, i'm not knocking him, but he is the only guy we have? i mean, even people extraordinarily close to george w. bush said karl had his own numbers. you know? you never knew what you were getting with karl. is this the only guy that our millionaires and billionaires want to give money to? look. i love karl. give karl some money, but we need some other people. >> who you got? >> crossroads had 1.2% success rate. i don't know. so
they give themselves a discount on their consulting services. >> michael: karl rove shot back at this, and then we'll hear from you david. >> i thought sarah palin was about encouraging volunteer grassroots activity. i'm a volunteer. second of all look, i appreciate her encouragement that i go home to texas and run for office. i would be enthused to have her sport. i don't think i'm a particularly good candidate. sort of a balding fat guy. second of all i'd say if i did run for office and win i'd serve out my term. i wouldn't leave office midterm. >> michael: oh, a dagger, dave. >> yes that's fun to watch when you're on the outside watching. the thing about it is i timothy rove knows they have to stop denying invitations to sarah palin. all they need to do is bring in a celebrity and thousand how they can have this rigorous intellectual conference. sure have some conversations but have thinkers there as opposed to performers or celebrities. that's where the republican party seems to be stumped in terms of how they conduct these things. >> michael: yes, eleanor in talking about 2016 so
to start a fight with karl rove. >> the last thing we need is washington vetting our candidates. if these experts, who keep losing elections yet keep getting rehired, reeking in millions, if they feel that strongly about who gets to run in this party, then they should buck up or stay in the truck. buck up and run. the architects can head on back to -- [ applause ] >> they can head on back to the great lone star state and put their name on some ballad, though i hope they give themselves a discount on the consulting services. >> yeah, cpac is not a place where ideas get launched. it's cable news chum. it's three days of fantasy. there's always so much guaranteed red meat at cpac. there's so much off the wall cookiness. cpac is fun, right? it's fun to cover. it got a ton of press and frankly, people may still be taking about sarah palin and her taking a giant sip out of a tub of soda pop, or where mitt romney called iraq a war of liberation. people might still be talking about all this stuff if it were not for this. the day after cpac ended, the morning after cpac ended, the republ
want to make a point about hoarding capital. it was karl rove who said essentially that you can't hoard political capital you spend it or lose it. when you look at the assault weapons ban which in the polls has strong majority support the point here is that you can actually gain political capital by seriously forcing votes vote after vote after vote. that gets you political capital by spending it, you spend money to make money. i argue by the departments not spending that, they're going to lose what moral high ground they have. cenk: ginger, if you agree with the democratic theory which is that you should neve, ever, ever spend your political capital until you have this magic moment, in this second term of president obama, what's the magic moment what are they collecting all this political capital for, to do a grand bargain to cut social security and medicare? >> we saw president obama say last week, trying to build up good will for a grand bargain. we've seen the immigration bill. cenk: great. ginger, so first of all grand bargain is a horrible for progress you haves horrible. it cuts
the evidence. they browbeat people. they would karl rove as their political hench men. the vote was scheduled on the eve of the elections deliberately. i don't want to let democrats off the hook. 29 senate democrats voted to authorize the use of force. some apologized later like john kerry. some brave people came out against it as you showed. barbara boxer, dick durbin, paul wellstone, but there is a tendency among democrats that really worries me. it's to act as though maybe their patriotism is possibly going to be called into question and they're always appeasing these bullies who question their very americanness and we saw that over and over at 9/11 and particularly in the run-up to war. it was a little bit frightening to be against the war as i was. we weren't really singled out and ridiculed, but we were right. they will go down in history as having done the wrong thing. it requires a lot of vigilance to make sure nothing like that happens again. >> given what the congresswoman said earlier, are we still at risk despite their bold and creative witness of a march to war of this magnitude
when jeb bush tried to do that with immigration, look at the pushback that he got. and today karl rove wrote a piece in "the wall street journal." he said this. "understanding that today's technology has the shelf life of a banana, silicon valley republicans are working to modernize the gop's voter file in advance of next year's midterm." he didn't right anything about modernizing the gop policies, just their list of voters. >> well, this is going to be their problem, too. because the tea party element is that they don't think strategically. otherwise, they would have control of the senate right now. they lost colorado, denver, nevada, and they are not thinking strategically and really don't care if the republican wins so much as whether the republican keeps to their very hardcore view of issues like immigration. and like abortion and other things like that. but the party -- when you you talked about abortion, the party has a lot more repairing to do. there are a lot of women who are anti-abortion. it was a contraception argument. the insults that came from members of the party and the
.com and sign up for the ar 15. one last thing, just like karl rove but conservative. >> geraldo: hold it a little higher. can't see it. hold it a little higher. joe for america.org. i like the high prized graphics there. how is your poe let cal aspirations going. >> i'm enjoying being an activist and getting behind great people. i'm having fun making things happen. >> geraldo: i appreciate you coming on. thanks very much. >> geraldo: several aspiring models have gone missing recently. all of them using the same modeling website. here is the question that we ask in the investigation tonight there a serial rapist and killer of these models on the loose? that's next. ll have to pay fivd bucks for your deductible. the truth? at allstate, you could pay zero. allstate gives you a hundred dollars off your deductible the day you sign up. then another hundred off every year you don't have an accident. let the good hands reward your safe driving with a deductible that goes away. ♪ deductible rewards. one more way you're in good hands with allstate. ♪ then i read an article about a study tha
for america .com and sign up for the ar 15. one last thing, just like karl rove but conservative. >> geraldo: hold it a little higher. can't see it. hold it a little higher. joe for america.org. i like the high prized graphics there. how is your poe let cal aspirations going. >> i'm enjoying being an activist and getting behind great people. i'm having fun making things happen. >> geraldo: i appreciate you coming on. thanks very much. >> geraldo: several aspiring models have gone missing recently. all of them using the same modeling website. here is the question that we ask in the investigation tonight there a serial rapist and killer of these models on the loose vo: always one step ahead with an intuitive motion activated lid and seat, bold makes sure you'll never have to ask him again. the longest 4g lte battery in a razr thin profile. with 32 hours of battery life that turns an all-nighter, into a two-nighter. the droid razr maxx hd by motorola. droid-endurance. droid-powerful. that work the way you wish they would. like a front-end loader you can detach from your seat? or a mower deck yo
over the weekend. republican separate gist conservative karl rove saying surprising stuff about same-sex marriage on abc's "this week." listen. >> karl rove, can you imagine the next republican presidential candidate saying flat-out, i am for gay marriage? >> i could. >> it cuts off that quickly because he quickly tries to make a left turn to kind of get off the subtd, anna. but, anna, what do you make of this? you made some news this weekend on our own show "state of the union" 0 when you said on this issue the genie isn't going back in the bottle. what do you think that karl rove is acknowledging this? it. >> well, i think it, like me, he might be optimistic that's the case, that we don't have this play a large role in the primary. but i've got to tell you, kate, i think it might be possible that the question is no longer relevant. nobody asks in a primary or in a political race anymore, are you for or against it interracial marriage? it's no longer a relevant question. and i think the shift on this one issue is growing, increasing the approval so exponentially that by the time 201
-drinker, sarah palin, who lobbed a verbal spit ball right at bush's brain, karl rove. >> these experts who keep losing elections, keep getting rehired, raking in millions, buck up or stay in the truck. buck up and run. the architects can head on back to -- they can head on back to the great lone star state and put their name on some ballot. >> rove responded that he didn't think it would be a very good -- he would be a very good candidate because he is, quote, sort of a balding fat guy. buck up, karl. take a big gulp. you have a long week ahead. we are joined now by msnbc political analyst, former senior adviser to the president, david axelrod live with us from phoenix, arizona. good afternoon, sir. >> martin, good to be with you. >> it's been suggested that you and your team were responsible for defining mitt romney and the republican party over the course of last year. in fact, both mr. romney and mrs. romney have complained that they were negatively defined by the president's campaign. but don't the events at cpac this weekend prove that if anyone's responsible for the ugly, noninclusive bra
on capitol hill and defends the tea party, and for this, karl rove threatened to primary him. cindyrty patriots gave the name "sunshine cindy," because she is one of the most have become a cheerful patriots that we know. michele bachmann inspired this mother of two to stand on principle and run for elective office. a stateindy is representative in minnesota. another organized a grass roots tea party coalition in the unlikely, deep blue state of washington. talkingt door-to-door, about taxes and other items, and they flip them to a fiscally responsible majority, is. -- and they flipped them. the torch of liberty, the constitution in our country, will they perish or last? if we stand and speak for our principles, if we show americans our vision for the future, if we fight for freedom, our country will last. [applause] glasses with a powerful elite? the face ofnk in opposition? or will you stand boldly on principle? patriots, stand with us and fight for freedom, fight for our constitution, fight with us for the rights endowed by our creator, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, fi
politics if he was sort of the karl rove of his air. he suggested the flight your upload. nixon learned that lesson the in a way that would -- a dark figursector that part of nixon s the early. the attacks i'd of him wasn't just doing eisenhower's bidding but it was something he had learned from murray chotiner. but i'm not sure i guess what you meant from the. >> from the very first month of nixon's presidency, you've already applying these lessons of domestic policy, to determine his political future. i was just curious if you saw him learning lessons from the eisenhower reacted to things like little rock and things, how to get out ahead spent eisenhower, i said, i don't think eisenhower -- eisenhower really -- little rock, eisenhower did what he knew what he had to do. >> there's one foreign policy lesson i think he learned. richard nixon, and i'm not, in your book he suggested he may have felt that way at the time, but clear, letter, richard nixon came to think of dwight eisenhower handled the suez crisis badly. long story short, the israelis, the french and the british -- now this
-down, drag-out free for all where sarah palin jumps off her stool to throw punches at karl rove. >> the last thing we need is washington, d.c. vetting our candidates. the architects can head on back to -- >> they can head on back to the lone star state and put their name on a ballot. >> i would say if i did run for office and win, i would serve out my term. i wouldn't leave office mid-term. >> the kind of fracas that sees ted cruz take on john mccain. >> we had an eminent member of the republican party describe me as whacko bird. if standing for the constitution makes me a whacko bird, then count me a proud whacko bird. >> the kind of intraparty donnybrook featuring ann coulter versus ann coulter. here is what she said two years ago. >> if you don't run chris christie, romney will be the nominee. and lose. >> and here is ann coulter this weekend, landing one squarely on the jaw of the very same guy she once wanted to elect president. >> even cpac had to cut back on his speakers this year by about 300 pounds. i'm now a single-issue voter against amnesty. so christie's off my list. >> the next
, i'd serve out my term. >> so, ben, no love lost between karl rove and sarah palin. how quickly do you think reince priebus and folks at rnc want to get stars like rove and palin and moving forward? >> well, if sarah palin wins this fight, i think you'll see the republican party in tatters like it was during the goldwater days. you're laying the groundwork for somebody like rand paul to win the iowa caucus us. chairman priebus made all the right recommendations. i would have gone further and said challenge your electorate. challenge your base. open up those primaries to independents. then you'll get republican candidates incentive to run to the center instead of to the right of rand paul. if those candidates win out you'll see democrats do very well in the midterms and four years. >> real quick guys, element number four of the cpac straw poll it puts rand paul in at 25%. marco rubio at 23%. so we have a leader there. our power panel, perry bacon, ben labolt, susan del percio. thank you. >>> university of central florida's main campus in orlando will reopen and classes will resume a
, what nia mentioned, karl rove running against marriage equality provoked democrats into more of a spirited defense of it and more alignment with it, because rove kind of forced the issue. >> i mean remember, in 2004 in states like ohio, it was such a divisive issue, same sex marriage, you had people very protective on one hand and scared on the other. over four years, what we have had in terms of political conversation is a number of people that had personal experiences with gay members of the family or communities, so it is affecting people not just in democratic circles but republican circles. rob portman this past week, his son is gay, that effected him. we had a number of top conservative donors in the tri-state area that have become devoted to the gay rights cause in part because of family members and are bank rolling candidates on that issue. that as much as anything else has been a huge boost to the lbgt movement. >> listen to john boehner that insists no matter how many relatives he has who may want marriage equality, he will never go there. listen to this. >> can you
of bloomberg versus nra money, it is an issue about doing what the american people want done. >> karl rove over the weekend, you have taken a listen no doubt, had this advice for democrats on gun control on nbc. let's listen. >> you want to get something done, stop scaring people. don't say we're keeping a registry of all of the guns. >> stop it. it is not scaring people. >> others are saying who's doing the scaring, gun advocates are ones doing the scaring. who is doing the scaring? >> i think both sides are trying to scare the other, whether it is nra using nanny state bloomberg message or sometimes you see the republicans say yes, they're going to take guns away. the fact of the matter is this law will probably pass when it comes to background checks. the sadder part is that senator reid didn't allow a vote on assault weapons before break. that's the biggest issue in this legislation or supposed legislation that michael bloomberg is looking for. will they probably come to a compromise? yes. is michael bloomberg on the right side of the issue? absolutely. it is problematic making him the face
in california. she says she's confident that roberts will rule in favor of same-sex marriage. karl rove - the republican strategist - has some thoughts on the issue. he says he 'can' imagine a republican candidate in the next presidential campaign -- supporting same sex marriage. rove is the former adviser to president george w. busy. he is apparently acknowledging that opposition to same sex marriage is ebbing -- even in some conservative circles. >> pam: and although support is growing, there is still strong opposition. in a recent national c-n-n poll, 53- percent of those surveyed said, they support gay marriage. .while 44- percent are against it. 3 - percent had no opinion. support for same-sex marriages topped 50- percent in the spring of 2011, and the number has remained relatively consistently ever since. stay with kron-4 as we follow the u.s supreme court as it takes on same- sex marriage. updates are also available on the web at kron-4 dot com, and our facebook and twitter pages. >> archie. the pomeranian that was stolen from his owner on a bart train is now back home with his
-- conservatives virs versus establishment republicans. this weekend, sarah palin slammed karl rove. >> if they feel that strongly about who gets to run in this party, then they should buck up or stay in the truck. buck up and run. >> reporter: rove hit back on fox news sunday. >> i say if i did run for office and win, i'd serve out my term. i wouldn't -- i wouldn't leave office midterm. >> reporter: and john mccain recently called rising republican star rand paul a wacko-bird. paul responded at the cpac conference. >> the gop of old has grown stale and moss-covered. [ cheers ] i don't think we need to name any names, do we? >> reporter: now, these divisions have become personal lately in the gop, and i think a way, wolf, we don't normally see. but they're substantive divisions as well. how to tackle the issues like immigration reform, things like same-sex marriage. something that's becoming increasingly popular. and, also, how to tackle women's issues in a way that doesn't repel women, as mitt romney did in november. >> lots of work ahead. thanks very much, brianna for that report
ink by the barrel. so this is today's version of it. finally one quick question about karl rove. he is also on the side of saying we got to do something about these tea party whackos who get these guys elected and then they can't win in november. >> yeah, it was amazing how many shots got taken at karl rove at cpac. sarah palin, and [ inaudible ] from the conservative media watchdog group -- i'm blanking on the name, i'm sorry -- >> bill: the media research -- >> media research center. thank you. it's pretty amazing how quickly he was able to isle leen at it a lot of those tea party folks. a lot of them probably didn't like him in the first place, but it's amazing -- and he did sort of back down from some of his stuff originally where he was -- that conservative victory project that founded -- after that first round of comments he was helping and hawing on how much they would be getting involved in these primaries and whether or not they would be going after people like steve keg who looks like he is going to win any primary in iowa. >> bill: all right. kevin ro
tradition. should that have been cut too? karl rove weighs in. bill: doesn't look like spring, does it. heather: not at all. bill: not here. where this massive pileup happened on the highway. we'll tell you how they made out there. heather: i hear they're suing the groundhog because of that. and investigating now underway if syria, seriously, is using chemical weapons or has but some law make he is -- lawmakers here say it is clear they did. president obama says this would be a game-changer. general jack keane is here with his take on this growing crisis. >> you have a government that we believe and we have solid information, by the way the international community believes this, has chemical weapons. has put them in a position to be used on short notice, and i believe, there's a high probability has been used with that whole body over the last two years. hey, our salads. [ bop ] [ bop ] [ bop ] you can do that all you want, i don't like v8 juice. [ male announcer ] how about v8 v-fusion. a full serving of vegetables, a full serving of fruit. but what you taste is the fruit. so even you
:00 p.m., the manager of the president's reelection campaign and republican consultant karl rove. at 2:00 p.m., chris wallace speaks with rand paul and gary bauer, the president of american values. veterans affairs secretary, erickson said he, on at 3:00 p.m., as well as the chief .olicy officer for veterans president of freedom to marry, tony perkins, president of the family research council. brought to you as a public- service by the network and c- span. here the repairs at noon, eastern. 1:00 p.m. o listen to them all on c- span radio. your smart phone, or online. [video clip] >> the most striking differences the calmness of teh parade. 100 years ago it was less of a parade and more of a riot. the police refused to protect them and as it progressed, crowds got larger and larger, unruly, they had been drinking. they would throw things and shout things, telling them to go home. so, the crowd got larger and larger and more aggressive. the women could not before word. the police were involved. the secretary of defense brought back thevalry to push unruly crowd so that the women could co
and you abuse it, it will be taken away. host: karl rove spoke yesterday on abc about the report. let's hear what he had to stay. [video clip] >> those are tactical challenges that are easily described. but the party also faces a strategic issues that are harder to define or provide an answer to. one interesting thing that has happened is if you look at the recent months, paul ryan, scott walker, bobby jindal, they have come forward with interesting speeches talking about the future of the party. this is the process that each party goes through after losing a presidential election. it is a constructive process. be strain is that it has to a party that stands for the right of every american and a party that emphasizes growth and prosperity, and i think that is right, it allows us to make our argument in every corner in america in a powerful way. coming from voices like bobby jindal and susanna martina's, it gives us greater credibility. host: what is the role of people like karl rove in shaping the future of the party? guest: it is whatever the industry wanted to be, no doubt about it.
a course in the election politics sort of the karl rove of the era and said you have to deflate your opponent and nixon learned that lesson and in a way was the dark side there? nixon was there. the attack site of temples and just giving eisenhower's bidding it was something that he learned and believed in deeply but i'm not quite sure of the domestic policy and which even. >> i guess i'd say it seems from the first month of axson's presidency that he was already applying these lessons of domestic policy to determine his political future. and i was curious if you saw him learning lessons from how eisenhower reacted and things like little rock how to get out ahead of these things. this is what i've been dreading all along in the decision. >> you suggested he might have felt that way but it's clear that richard nixon came to think that the white eisenhower had handled the crisis badly and long story short, the israelis, the french and the british -- this is a conspiracy. agent in conspiracy. the united states decided not to back great britain and france and in fact put real pressure on
is selling cookies at grocery store and i say is that karl rove buying a box of cookies? it was. i thin it was the thin mints. >> thin mints. yes. okay. thank you. >> reporter: yes. >>> you can find a link to jamie dupree's washington insider blog on our website. just to go ktvu.com. pull down the news menu bar and go to our politics page. >>> more than 100 witnesses are expected to testify today at the beginning of a federal trial about the new york police department's practice of stopping, questioning and frisking people. the class-action lawsuit claims a stop-and-frisk practice violates the rights of minorities. oakland's newly hired police department consultant, william bratton, has supported stop and frisk in other cities. his critics in oakland have protested hiring him because of his support of stop and frisk. >>> a new federal grant would increase staffing elf wills in the oakland police department. but oakland police would also be required to patrol high- crime areas in other parts of alameda county. alameda county agencies are seeking a $67 million grant to hire 90,000 officer
at what karl rove is doing. they are really attempting to stop that -- to run against that kind of thing, but then look at what happened at cpac. here comes sarah palin. >> caller: they created these people. >> hal: that's right. >> caller: and mitch mcconnell you know -- saying that they had rand paul and rubio, and showing off that they had rand paul, and that democrats have henry. and yeah i'm thinking to myself, yeah, we have the adult. we have these crazy young ones who i wouldn't trust the last time we met these people -- or the last time that these young ones -- they crashed our house pretty much, and now they want us to know their crazy young kids the keys to drive the car back to the house. >> hal: i totally hear where you are coming from. they seem to think every time that this is a market issue. it was this puffed up artificial astroturf for what was effectively the moral majority same crowd he saw pushing through the agenda and they just switched back and forth depending on who you were talking to at the time. but the essence of these two groups, they fuse
anyone. >> reporter: but the nra opposes the new legislation. on abc's "this week" karl rove echoed its concerns. >> if there's one thing that scares a lot of people that believe in the second amendment is the federal government keeping a national registry. >> reporter: the senate is expected to vote on what is left of gun control legislation when it returns from recess in april. the assault weapons ban has been dropped from the senate package. >> thank you, jim. >>> let's go to cecilia vega now. >> good to be here. breaking news overnight affecting your money in the stock market. this time it's good news. after frantic last-minute negotiations, leaders have agreed to bail out cyprus which would prevent it from going bankrupt. under terms of the $13 billion deal, one major bank is being forced to close. and only the wealthiest account holders will lose funds. >>> despite what is being called a spirited discussion, secretary of state john kerry has failed to win any agreement from iraq after a surprise visit to baghdad on sunday. kerry warned the iraqis to stop allowing iran to use air s
is that karl rove buying a box of cookies? it was. i thin it was the thin mints. >> thin mints. yes. okay. thank you. >> reporter: yes. >>> you can find a link to jamie dupree's washington insider blog on our website. just to go ktvu.com. pull down the news menu bar and go to our politics page. >>> more than 100 witnesses are expected to testify today at the beginning of a federal trial about the new york police department's practice of stopping, questioning and frisking people. the class-action lawsuit claims a stop-and-frisk practice violates the rights of minorities. oakland's newly hired police department consultant, william bratton, has supported stop and frisk in other cities. his critics in oakland have protested hiring him because of his support of stop and frisk. >>> a new federal grant would increase staffing elf wills in the oakland police department. but oakland police would also be required to patrol high- crime areas in other parts of alameda county. alameda county agencies are seeking a $67 million grant to hire 90,000 officers, sheriff d
an identity crisis, and it means feuds are breaking out all over, including one between karl rove and sarah palin. sarah palin stole the show at this weekend's cpac convention, playing more the role of entertainer and standup comedian than a serious politician. >> bloomberg is not around. >> her remarks included a direct shot at karl rove. >> the last thing we need is washington, d.c. vetting our candidates. it is these experts that keep losing elections, you keep getting rehired, raking in millions. architects can head on back -- they can head back to the lone star state and put their name on some ballots. >> he fired back reminding palin of her political primary. >> if she can plan primaries, other people can. >> if i did, i would serve my term, i wouldn't leave office mid term. >> jeb bush offered tough love to his party. >> all too often we are associated with being anti-everything. >> neither bush nor palin scored with conservatives for the 2006 race. it was rand paul and marco rubio that took top spots in the cpac straw poll. >> that republican party autopsy one of the things they're
. and for this karl rove threatened to primary him. >> boo! >> tea party patriots gave cindy pew the nickname sunshine cindy because she is one of the most cheerful, happy patriots we know. congresswoman michele bachmann inspires -- [cheers and applause] this mother of two to stand on principle and run for elected office. today cindy is a state representative in minnesota. [applause] wayne hertzog organized a coalition in the unlikely deep blue state of washington. they went door to door talking about taxes and government spending, and they flipped their state senate to a fiscally-responsible majority caucus. [cheers and applause] willing the torch of liberty, the constitution in our country perish or endure? if we stand and speak for our principles, if we show americans our vision for the future, if we fight for freedom, our country will endure. [cheers and applause] will you clink glasses with the powerful elite? >> no! >> will you link in the face of opposition -- blink in the face of opposition? >> no! >> or will you stand up and fight boldly on principle? >> yes! [cheers and applause] >> patriots
the bus in public, right. >> oh, yeah. it's unbelievable. >> bill: sarah palin and karl rove, rand paul and marco rubio john mccain calling them whacko birds. >> yeah, i feel like he is the guy at then of scooby doo -- if it wasn't for those darn kids. it's not just enough to hate government. when you elect folks to government that hate government they destroy it. you would never put somebody as a ceo of a company who hated the company. >> bill: the other thing they came without a report this week which some people call the autopsy, which i love, which autopsies are performed on cold dead bodies that you know are not coming back from the grave. >> yes. >> bill: and they say we need to be the party of outreach. and the very next day reince priebus says we are the party that believes that marriage is between one man and one woman only. when 81% of the voters support marriage equality. so they are not the party of outreach. >> absolutely not. i saw this in the republican party in the '90s when i was rap. there was a lot of lip service reaching out to young folks, but th
, the pragmatic political conversion of the karl roves of the world who can read an exit poll who says we can't win national elections losing 75-25. can't do it. but then what's interesting to me is when i covered the 2007 fight, you know, those office switch boards were flooded every right-wing talk show host every day was in the weed of everything on mccain-kennedy. there was this massive genuine grassroots backlash and you saw it in town halls. very tea party stuff. gary you covered this. why are things different because that to me is i..ing. pragmatic calculation on behalf of the republican elite i get. >> there's a sense they love, the right loves power more than it hates immigrants. that's the point. if they carry on doing this they will lose and there are so many other things at stake if they lose that they can't carry on in their way. so there's that sense of inevitabilitity forces a reconing. there was a time in the '60s when no one would engage, a large part of the population wouldn't engage with civil rights. then they said we have to find a way to do this. there's no reason why im
. >> to that point, what do you think about karl rove's initiative to find strong gop candidates and to avoid some candidates whose statements or positions have led to their defeat? do you think that's a good idea? >> um, you know, we've had i don't know how many groups that are outside groups, 527s that are and have been in the business of trying to pick winners in primaries. you know, i appreciate the first amendment. i think any person in america that wants to file for a 527 or they want to organize a group to help a particular candidate in a primary should be able to do it. i'm not against it. i will tell you as far as the rnc is concerned, however, we don't pick winners and losers in primaries. it's just not something that we do can. by rule, in fact, it's barred. and so it's a business that we're not in. so it's also not our prerogative to tell other people what they can and cannot do as far as exercising their first amendment right to get involved. >> if you could create the ideal presidential candidate for your party for the next election cycle based on qualities and the appeal that pollin
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